They'll Fight This War To The Last Man
There is this AP article out about how republican support for the war will probably hurt them in 2008. In the article there are the usual statements about September this and the support is wavering that. It's the republican's war and they better win it blah, blah, blah. Then there are quotes like this:
Here is the quote though that really pisses me off. Here's this guy in a gerrymandered district that's reasonably safe.
You blindly supported our incompetent Commander-In-Chief while his politically appointed toadies totally fucked up the peace that our "guys in uniform" had so easliy won.
If anyone has stood up our guys it's the right-wing shitheads in congress and in the executive branch. If anyone had paid any attention to Gen. Shinseki four years ago we wouldn't be in this mess. But no, we had to go in with Rumsfeld and Bush's plan for empire building on the cheap. Not enough troops, not enough equipment, and zero planning.
The only consistency we've had is that the military planning has been equal to the prewar intelligence.
Jim Martin
(thanks to The Moderate Voice , Liberty Street, and Newshoggers for the links)
"When you think about what Iraq means to our nation, and what failure in Iraq will mean to our nation, it's really far more important than any election," House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio told reporters Thursday. He later added that he expects to lose no GOP seats over the issue in 2008, because "I'm planning on victory in Iraq."Well, it's good to have another plan, the first seven or eight plans for victory haven't exactly turned out. That's a position from the minority leader that I would expect and I hope it does work out, but there is very little hope of that. I'm not sure even he could articulate what will define victory. I certainly couldn't.
Here is the quote though that really pisses me off. Here's this guy in a gerrymandered district that's reasonably safe.
Some Republicans, especially those from strongly conservative House districts, say pollsters and commentators are overstating the party's political peril.Stand up our guys in uniform? You sorry bastard. You sent our "guys" over there four years ago and they won your little war for you and then you left them there without the proper equipment or a plan or an exit strategy.
"We're not in despair. We're not in isolation," said Rep. Pete Sessions R-Texas. While many Americans clearly want to withdraw from Iraq promptly,"the far vaster group of people think Congress had better not stand up our guys in uniform", Sessions said.
You blindly supported our incompetent Commander-In-Chief while his politically appointed toadies totally fucked up the peace that our "guys in uniform" had so easliy won.
If anyone has stood up our guys it's the right-wing shitheads in congress and in the executive branch. If anyone had paid any attention to Gen. Shinseki four years ago we wouldn't be in this mess. But no, we had to go in with Rumsfeld and Bush's plan for empire building on the cheap. Not enough troops, not enough equipment, and zero planning.
The only consistency we've had is that the military planning has been equal to the prewar intelligence.
Jim Martin
(thanks to The Moderate Voice , Liberty Street, and Newshoggers for the links)
posted by Libby Spencer at 10:02 AM
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The only one to lose if the military pulls back is the administration. Military has already won, but they're being played off for chumps by the fat guy in office (Bush is IMO clueless).
How sad that you're letting your hate blind you to what's really going on in Iraq.
I've been in and around the military going on six years now, and I knew things were pretty screwed up. Especially when I saw the disjunct between things on the ground and what they were saying in the news...
But that's changed. It really has. The soldiers I talk to now feel like we've finally got our efforts going in the right direction.
But nobody wants to hear that, and they point to meaningless statistics to 'prove' that what we're doing is failing, yet again. And they pretend that our actions have absolutely nothing to do with the growing anti-al Qaeda movement amongst the tribes in Anbar province.
The Republicans screwed up. They're finally getting their heads out of their a$$es. And if you guys continue to be stuck in the situation as it was six months ago, you'll miss it.
You expect to be taken seriously because you've been "in and around the military?" Afraid not. All you have to offer is a few conversations and the assertion that you know more than anybody.
Fact is I have heard that same argument - verbatim - since the first month of this war and I'm still waiting to see around that corner we've been turning for four years. We were told that it was getting better every day and only the "liberal press was wrong about it" and all the other usual propaganda. I will believe things are getting better when there is one small bit of evidence for that beyond the assertions of someone who's been "in and around."
Perhaps you weren't old enough to hear essentially that same argument in the late 60's and early 70's either, but I was and guess what. . it's not funny any more.
Regardless of how things were 6 months ago, April was a very cruel month. The level of violence and the number of casualties may be meaningless statistics to you but not to me. Efforts to rebuild the infrastructure may be heading in the wrong direction, but they are moving backwards. You're going to have to offer something more than the unsupported opinion that everyone is lying about Iraq except for the Administration and an anecdote or two to have any credibility.
Jim,
You are more than welcome for the link. I want to thank you, too, for linking back to me.
The more link love, the better -- plus, I'm always glad to help out a fellow baby boomer!
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