Thursday, March 13, 2008

Hillary just lost me

By Libby

I have to agree with John Cole. I'm not sure why it's news that Mark Penn opened up his big mouth and said Obama wasn't electable. The Clinton campaign has been pounding that theme since the day it became clear that Obama was beating them. That's just campaign spin, although it's mildly notable that Penn was on the TV. Last rumor I read said he was going to be banished from the public eye.

The real news should be this interview with Hillary on NPR. It's jawdroppingly Bushesque. Seriously, it was like a Bush presser without the twang. She's creating her own reality right from the beginning when she denies, oh excuse me, doesn't recall, saying McCain was more prepared to lead than Obama.

I mean, for the love of God, she said it four times in the last two weeks. If she really doesn't remember, why should I have any confidence in her ability to lead? And if she does and she's just lying in order to win, how on earth can I support that? It's becoming increasingly difficult to remain neutral.

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Blogger Swampcracker said...

Libby, with great sadness I have come to the same conclusion. Worst of all, when I listen to either Hillary or Bill these days, I get the same Anger McManagement and adrenalin rush as if I were listening to McBush ... I want to slap them.

Olbermann was right last night about their campaign turning into a suicide run for the Democratic party.

10:41:00 PM  
Blogger Swampcracker said...

One more point: While Ferraro and the Clintons are intent on turning the campaign into a race versus gender war, it should be remembered that Obama is also part white, as indeed are most, if not all, African-Americans, not to forget the distant cousin relationship to ... hmmm ... Dick Cheney.

I am totally offended by the Clinton campaign and will not vote for Hillary under any circumstances.

10:48:00 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

If you look up the DSM criteria for diagnosing sociopathy, you will be even more scared about Clinton.

And Ecophotos, I feel the same way you do about voting for Clinton. I might have done so before this primary season began, just to get a Democrat into the White House, even though I never liked Clinton. But not anymore.

I think Clinton is a person without conscience or ethics, and we've already had 8 years of that.

1:04:00 AM  
Blogger nolocontendere said...

Sadly all of them have shown not just a willingness but enthusiasm to out Bush Bush. The system is corrupt beyond redemption and the only thing left to do is make educated guesses as to which of them is more suited to the war party agenda and AIPAC, and therefore will be installed by Diebold.

7:53:00 AM  
Blogger Libby Spencer said...

I don't know what to do about voting for her if she manages to get the nomination and Nolo, you're right that all of them are just professional politicians and we're unlikely to see much change no matter who gets in. But as much as I'm coming to dislike Hillary, she would still be better than McCain. At least she's a smart sociopath.

Still, a third party vote is looking more attractive if she gets the nod through this sort of GOP trickery.

9:25:00 AM  
Blogger Swampcracker said...

Nolo, my state of Florida is in the process of moving those evil Diebolds to the dumpster, which explains why a primary do-over is logistically difficult, if not impossible, at this time. Thus, the World's Capital of Stolen Elections is currently incapacitated while trying to clean up past misdeeds.

About Hillary's alleged sociopathy, as much as I am offended by her recent behavior, she does not really fit the definition, although a compelling case can be made for calling Bill a narcissist.

9:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Am I the only one who finds myself agreeing with most of what Jeremiah Wright preaches?

9:53:00 AM  
Blogger nolocontendere said...

I dunno, "self entitled demagogue" is what I see and hear in Hillary.

11:55:00 AM  
Blogger Swampcracker said...

Nolo, the Billary team reminds me of Quarks. It is hard to tease them apart and figure out which is which.

12:23:00 PM  
Blogger Swampcracker said...

Lester, I agree with you about Jeremiah White. My only reservation is that his comments don't make good politics.

12:46:00 PM  
Blogger QueersOnTheRise said...

Oh God; oh God! I hate Hillary, but to sit at home in November if she steals the nomination and let McCain get in - should we really do that?

Regardless, Bill and HRC seem not to care at all about who is president unless it's one of them.

And yes, Ecophotos, Bill is a CLASSIC narcissist!

1:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ecophotos- I does for me. I'm glad Obama has at least been exposed to something pretty close to the truth.

also OT-

this is a good explanatin of how ridiculous our current situation is. there are trillions of dollars that are just little blips on a computer. and they wonder why everything is out of whack.

3:21:00 PM  
Blogger Swampcracker said...

Lester: there are trillions of dollars that are just little blips on a computer

I recall an anecdote many years ago about a budget committee taking hours to debate the approval of a bicycle rack but only seconds to approve a multi-million dollar construction project. It seems, the bigger the number, the less attention it gets. Most people, it seems, are bored to distraction by vast abstractions.

6:18:00 PM  

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