Rice in the house of bread
by Capt Fogg
But Condoleezza with all of her academic degrees simply accepts the story about the census and the flight to Egypt even though the census of Quirinius occurred in 6 AD when Herod was 10 years dead and didn't require anyone to return to their birthplace to register. I won't get into all the historical evidence that makes this incredible story incredible, but when Condy says
I could detect no trace of allowance for differences of opinion about what happened or didn't happen in Bethlehem, no hint of respect for the historical record or the myths of others; no phrasing like "here by Christian tradition, Jesus, whom I hold to be God was born" but only this is the way it really is, damn the facts, you heretics and damn your religion.
Is there really any hope for peace, for tolerance, for mutual respect amongst people who confuse belief with entitlement?
Cross posted from Human Voices
"Being here at the birthplace of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, has been a very special and moving experience,"said Condoleezza Rice the other day in Bethlehem. Beit Lechem or the House of Bread, is of course attributed by most Christians as the place in which Jesus was born, although historians tend to discount the story as a contrivance to make his history seem more in line with the ancient predictions that some young woman would give birth to a male continuation of the line of Ahaz that has been fixed up and resold as a prediction of a soul-saving messiah.
But Condoleezza with all of her academic degrees simply accepts the story about the census and the flight to Egypt even though the census of Quirinius occurred in 6 AD when Herod was 10 years dead and didn't require anyone to return to their birthplace to register. I won't get into all the historical evidence that makes this incredible story incredible, but when Condy says
"It is also, I think, a personal reminder that the prince of peace is still with us"and calls on Islam, Judaism and Christianity to make religion a "power of healing," I have to wonder about her grasp on reality. Has there ever been a more divisive and violent influence on humankind than the insistence that one myth be taken as axiom and all the other fact and fiction as heresy? How can there be peace when my prince of peace is tougher than your prince of peace?
I could detect no trace of allowance for differences of opinion about what happened or didn't happen in Bethlehem, no hint of respect for the historical record or the myths of others; no phrasing like "here by Christian tradition, Jesus, whom I hold to be God was born" but only this is the way it really is, damn the facts, you heretics and damn your religion.
Is there really any hope for peace, for tolerance, for mutual respect amongst people who confuse belief with entitlement?
Cross posted from Human Voices
Labels: Bush Administration, religion
posted by Libby Spencer at 10:53 AM
7 Comments:
oh brother. it's the PC thought police siren whooo whoo whooo! I guess she should have said "this area is okay"
I'm glad she referred to him as the prince of peace. the best nickname
I just don't understand Condy. She seems like an intelligent woman and then she opens her mouth and the most bizarre words come out. I can only think--Zoloft? Menopause? Religious delirium?
Less may be more but maybe Lester is less.
Sure, when you have no argument, just say PC and make animal noises. I'd vote for Krishna if you're looking for a prince of peace, but people will murder for any made-up character whether it's Jesus or Mars or Lester the wonder chimp, so it's all relative.
We don't need any more idiots laying claim to "sacred" ground that belongs to someone else when their job is to prevent war - get it? Is that too politically correct or would you prefer something religiously correct or Republican Correct or maybe some empty cliche that seems correct to a misinformed idiot?
I'm talking about historically incorrect. I'm talking about political stupidity and professional incompetence - think that all goes away by saying the meaningless magic formula? But keep hooting "thought police" and "whoo whoo" - makes you sound really brilliant.
Rocky:
It's delirium. What's the use of being intelligent if you are so stunned by belief you can't use it?
But that's her business - when she essentially lays claim to Bethlehem, she's not seeking peace but divisiveness and it's our business. Our species has fought too damn many wars because some patch of dirt was "sacred" and more sacred than peace, human life or human liberty.
did you read any of that Buchanan stuff yet?
"NO I don't want to hear what that RACIST has to say"
Do you concede that Condy is paid to represent the interests of the United States and not to express her religious feelings about Bethlehem while in an area that suspects the US of being Christian Crusaders? Do you concede that this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or thought police or any of the other mawkish, flyblown and moth-eaten slogans you people use to side-step reasoned discourse?
Woo Woo PC PC Liberal Liberal!
I don't know where Buchanan fits in here and I'm not talking about racism, but about Republicans and their institutionalized stupidity. If you don't think Buchanan worked for Nixon and was implicated in his crimes then make an argument - otherwise save the tired formulae for Sunday School.
christianity and buchanan rule. pc sucks
Pathetic.
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