Tuesday, August 22, 2006

Kill the movement, not the players

This is the scariest thing I've read all day. Terence J. Daly is a retired military intelligence officer and counterinsurgency specialist who agrees with me that conventional military strategies won't win against an insurgency. He makes some great points in that you can't defeat them by killing insurgents but rather you have to undermine the movement itself.

But then he takes it a step beyond my comfort zone. Here's the chilling graf.
Stringent population control measures like curfews, random searches, mandatory presentation of identity documents, searches of businesses and residences without warrants and preventive detention would be standing operating procedure.
Now he does go on to say, "For such measures to be acceptable to the public, they must be based on solid legal ground and enforced fairly, transparently and impartially." However, I don't see how you can operate under the law with that strategy. And how long, in an administration that considers its political opponents tantamount to insurgents, before the White House might seek to use the same methods on Americans?
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Anonymous lester said...

the whole "we're being too nice" argument is a smokescreen. people know bush isn't going to trash the geneva conventions or the constitution, at least not officially, so they are free to say that the only reason we aren't winning in iraq is we are playing fair. it has nothing to do with the sunnis and shias fighting for power as they have for hundreds of years or anything.

6:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Libby said...

The sad fact is we were never winning in Iraq and we never will as long they use outmoded military strategys. If we had come in with food and jobs for the Iraqis instead of bombs, this would never have happened. They might actually have welcomed us.

9:33:00 AM  
Anonymous lester said...

I was listening to al franken today and thomas ricks was on. they had this guy Mcmasters, who is like THE counter terrorism expert. the US had a major success in Tal Afar largely as a result of his being in charge of it. Now he's in some think tank somewhere. they just like let his tour run out. franken was like "what the fuck is that?"

3:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Libby said...

I'm with Franken. WTF? They don't want to win the war. Bush would have to give up his "war powers." Hell, they're actively courting another terrorist strike. They figure it would bring Georgie's ratings back up.

Fools. They don't understand that the propaganda is failing. It might reenergize the 30% that are too deluded or too invested to admit he's a cheat and a failure but it would solidy the opposition in the other 60% who pay attention.

10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous lester said...

I am more and more under the impression that thw white house is so powerful there is not much that can prevent it from doing what it wants.

6:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Libby said...

Now there's not much we can do Lester, but we gotta keep trying to stop him.

7:35:00 PM  

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