Thursday, February 25, 2010

Separation of Church and State - Updated

In a county nearby to me the county commissioners voted on whether to appeal a court order telling them they couldn't open their meetings with prayers that specifically reference Jesus. The county wouldn't be paying for the appeal, a bunch of fundie churches apparently are willing to spend hundreds of thousands to "protect their freedom of religion." Don't ask me why but I read the comments and became so irritated, I actually left several comments under an assumed name.

I jumped in at the first dozen or so, and then again a few times at around 115 in. Didn't expect it to last more than one day, but it's still up. I'm betting you can guess which one I am.

Update: Sorry, I linked to wrong article. My comments are here at the local Fox afilliate's post. They've since updated the story and the appeal has been filed.

The initial coverage led me to believe this was going to be funded by a local Christian alliance, but as it turns out, this is a project of the Alliance Defense Fund, a national organization run by far right theocrats. Founded by Dobson of Focus on the Family, its funders include Erik Prince of Blackwater, and his sister Betsy DeVos who is married to Richard DeVos who made his fortune on the Amway scam. Another funder is Bolthouse Farms, who sell organic products in health food stores, including Whole Foods. You might want to keep that in mind when you're shopping there.

The latest figures I can find show the Alliance is sitting on at least a $39 million war chest to pursue their theocratic agenda, that includes anti-choice, anti-equal marriage initatives, and encouraging spiritual leaders to endorse candidates from the pulpit so they have test cases towards establishing churches be allowed to abridge the separation of church and state in this manner without losing their tax-exempt status.

Also sitting on their board is Charles Pickering as Senior Counsel. You may recognize the name from when Bush made a recess appointment to seat him on the Fifth Circuit court. His nomination had been blocked because of his dismal civil rights record on the lower bench. A look at the Alliance's allies turns up the Heritage Foundation among other orgs dedicated to destroying free choice and government as we know it.

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Blogger rockync said...

I'm think having a moment here; I STILL can't figure out how to access the comment section.
At the end of the article I have a rating thing and then it says comments and then to the right is a "write a comment" icon.
I can click the write a comment and even do the star rating but after mousing all over the comment thing, I can't access the comments.

4:30:00 PM  
Blogger Libby Spencer said...

Oops. Wrong link. I'm commenting in a different forum. About to do an update. This gets curiouser...

9:25:00 AM  
Blogger rockync said...

OK, Interested Observer definitely but did you use another like Equal Opportunity Citizen?

3:17:00 PM  
Blogger Libby Spencer said...

LOL, interested observer I am. Wasn't too hard to guess was it? :)

Only used the one name. Was surprised to find a couple of other liberal types in that forum. Especially on a Fox site. But man, the fundies who are bitching about the prayer thing are a piece of work aren't they?

9:45:00 AM  
Blogger rockync said...

Remember when religion, like sex was something you did in the privacy of your own home?
These self righteous, simpering sions of Christiandom could accept the rational compromise solution of having their little prayer meeting in a private room before the secular government meeting - but no, they think it is some edict from God that they must force all others to drink from the same kool aid jug they're sipping on.
Drives me crazy!

4:36:00 PM  
Blogger Capt. Fogg said...

"they think it is some edict from God that they must force all others to drink from the same kool aid jug they're sipping on."

Exactly - that's precisely it. Everyone must be forced to listen, to surrender so that Jesus can return and murder the unbelievers.

I know it's self contradictory, but hey - these are all two digit IQ types.

10:12:00 AM  
Blogger Libby Spencer said...

It's like everything else with the far right, they find a quote, or this case a bible verse, out of context that justifies them and run with it. And as usual no amount of logic or evidence will convince them they're wrong.

7:46:00 AM  

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